Vegan Gains ISN’T Vegan?! (Vegan Gains Wolfdog Drama!!)

I am doing this quick video about the recent drama involving Richard, aka Vegan Gains, over his and Jasmine’s Wolfdog, Lucy.

In this past Sunday’s Q&A, a couple of my viewers brought this situation up, and wanted my opinion on the matter. While I addressed the question during the Q&A, I figured it would be worth elaborating to my broader audience. As a lot can get lost in a hour-long, impromptu event without time codes.

I do want to preface that Richard and I are friends, and we talk every so often over Facebook. Nonetheless, I want to try and offer my unbiased (as possible) view on the situation.

Now, I am not there, physically, in Toronto with Richard and his wife. Nor was I with them in Europe, and nor have I ever physically met either of them. In fact, I’ve never even talked to Jasmine in any capacity. Only Richard.

Richard did, however, explain the situation to me over messenger – in fact, I am the one who suggested that he address the situation in a video. He was, initially, going to simply ignore the accusations.

Now, without having been there, his story is solely what I have to go on. So, take this video as you will.

There’s no need to rehash what Richard has already opened up about in his video, except to emphasize that Lucy, by his admission, was adopted. Albeit, from a breeder, but adopted.

She was ill, and as such — considered worthless to the breeder.

According to the website “Dog breeds list”, which came as a top search result on Google, the average cost of a Czechoslovakian Wolfdog puppy is $400 – $600 USD.

Keep in mind, that is an average cost. Not taking into account vaccinations, medical treatments or check-ups, care, etc., nor taking into account what this specific breeder, who Jasmine had discovered, was charging for her dogs.

In fact, on “”, I am finding Wolfdogs ranging up to $1,400 here in the US. As of February 27th, that is.

And, in Canada, I see them ranging up to $2,500 CAD, which is equivalent to nearly $2,000 USD as of February 27th currency conversion.

Richard claims he had paid $1,000 CAD for Lucy. And this cost included all initial care provided by the breeder in Denmark, as well as a suitable travel enclosure for the overseas journey.

$1,000 CAD, as of February 27th, is equivalent to $763.80 USD, which is a little over $1,200 USD less than some of the highest prices I’ve seen for Wolfdogs online.

If you factor in initial care and other odds and ends provided by the breeder… the breeder would NOT have profited whatsoever from Lucy. Which lends credibility to Richard’s story.

Furthermore, if this was simply about getting a wolfdog — why wouldn’t they purchase from a local breeder there in Canada?! I’ve shown you that they DO exist!

Yet, Richard specifically paid to acquire Lucy from Denmark, which is nearly 4,000 miles away, across a goddamned ocean! Which comes with added transportation costs!

Doesn’t that seem just a bit excessive to anyone if this simply boils down to owning a Wolfdog?! Not just excessive logistically, but also financially when you factor in all of the expenses incurred.

I see nothing wrong with what is, essentially, adopting an ill animal. The animal gets a loving home and care, where it is wanted.

If anything, that is the vegan thing to do, no? To limit the suffering of an animal.

If everything Richard has confided in me is true, then he has not committed an offense against veganism in my opinion.

And, if he has, then I too am guilty of the same offense.

As I’ve mentioned to my viewers in my last Q&A, I’ve purchased sick birds from pet stores in the past, like Budgies and Finches. When I was out shopping for bird seed and toys, and I noticed a sick, starving and/or bullied bird… I could not leave them in that grotesque situation.

I’d always approach store management, but those fuckers made it painfully apparent they could care less… so, out of frustration, I’d purchase the bird and nurse it to health, and it would go on to live a quality life under my care and love. They’d always become so vibrant and cheerful. And in one situation, even sired two children — thus fulfilling its biological imperative.

And, my care also included free-range access to my entire dwelling — ALL rooms.

I just had to hide wires and such to bird-proof things, and clean up their projectile shit often. The things we do for those we love.

Coincidentally, ALL of the birds I’ve rescued in this manner ended up living longer than birds actually born in my care that were always in perfect health!

But, yeah … this means I had to resign and pay a pet store, like Petco, money for said birds – often at cost! Which lines their pocket, but I’d feel worse if I saw something and did nothing, when it was in my power to help. The birds, on the other hand, having no power over their predicament whatsoever.

And I liken this to Richard’s scenario. Lucy was sick, and was not destined to lead a quality life in her previous situation with that breeder.

If anything, by not catering to this particular animal’s health needs, Richard would be causing further suffering of said animal.

And it is my understanding Richard has spent thousands of additional dollars, since receiving Lucy, to provide her medical attention.

Now… as for providing her a diet including meat.

Richard has said that he had tried feeding Lucy quality vegan dog food, one that his mother’s dog thrives on. But, alas, her health didn’t improve.

What was he to do? Let Lucy suffer and die?! Under his care, no less?! Is that what some of you people want?! And YOU call yourselves vegan?!

There do exist situations or contexts, regardless of what some vegans in their absolutism wish to recognize, where there are no other options.

Granted, these situations are NOT common! So, this is not a general excuse to break from vegan guidelines or lifestyle.

For example, purchasing food products that contain a chicken ingredient, whether or not you toss said ingredient in the bin.

Especially when, in that scenario, there ARE INDEED alternatives that do NOT contain an animal ingredient, and will NOT contribute to the demand for that product.

Some extreme human examples would include being marooned on a desert island, or surviving in a plane crash in a remote Tundra. Statistically-unlikely to occur in the vast majority of our lives, but has still occurred historically to an unfortunate few.

There is also an uncommon human dietary example, which I will be addressing in an upcoming video, so hit the subscribe and “bell” button to be notified of its release. It is one, to my knowledge, that no one is or has talked about.

But, again, these extremes or outliers are not a free pass for EVERYONE to say “fuck it!”, and write-off veganism.

Most of us do not bear such a medical burden, nor will most of us experience an extreme survival situation.

Lucy’s situation falls within an unfortunate medical category, it would seem. Clearly, she could not survive on a vegan diet. And I can only imagine how foul it must be for Richard to have to resign to purchasing meat products for Lucy. Hell, I cannot even WALK through the “graveyard” of my local Whole Foods. I will go out of my way to avoid it!

It is also worth considering the very real genetic differences between domesticated dogs and wolves.

According to a 2013 paper published in the journal Nature, there exists mutations in key genes that set domesticated dogs and wolves apart.

Wolves rely on a primarily carnivorous diet, much like snow leopards, the red fox and lynx.

Whereas the early ancestors of modern dogs could thrive on a diet rich in starches.

This conclusion was reached after mapping the gene sequences of both wolves and domesticated dogs. Therein existed ten genes with key roles in starch digestion and fat metabolism which demonstrate signals of dietary selection differences between wolves and dogs.

Thus, it could also simply be that Lucy’s ill-adaption to a vegan diet was genetically-unavoidable. Again, I am not a vet, nor am I a Zoologist, but it is worth the consideration.

Or it simply could be that Lucy, herself, is a unique medical case — as I was previously mentioning.

Anyhow, that is my take on the situation, based on what information I have been provided.

I felt obliged to make this as I am sick of the constant virtue-signaling, blatant stupidity and lack of common sense I have seen directed toward Richard. Behavior that I feel even threatens veganism as a movement! And I will be exploring that latter topic in a collaboration, sometime soon, with Isaac from Ask Yourself.

At the same time, I am totally unsurprised by the unfettered hate Richard’s received over this. Particular YouTubers, with their extraordinarily vapid content, cater to the absolute lowest common denominator among us, and then their imbecilic followers mobilize, and attack in herds.

But, Richard is in a higher-class, intellectually, than these simpletons. And I don’t see any sense in him feeding that cancer any further. If they can’t help themselves being so illogically absolute, then they can find the nearest sharp object, sit deep on it, and rotate.

Anyway, drop some comments below — let me know what you all think. Even if that is to tell me to “fuck off”. Keep in mind, your butthurt is my pleasure.

Thank you all for watching, and I will see you in the next video!



Czechoslovakian Wolfdog breed info,Pictures,Characteristics

Wolf Hybrids for Sale | Dogs on Oodle Marketplace

Wolfdog For Sale in Canada – Hoobly Classifieds

Position of the American Dietetic Association: vegetarian diets. – NCBI

The genomic signature of dog domestication reveals adaptation to a starch-rich diet

Species identification refined by molecular scatology in a community of sympatric carnivores in Xinjiang, China

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