Scooby Insults Vegan Bodybuilders (MY RESPONSE!!)

I know folks in the vegan community love their drama, so this video is likely going to appeal to a good number of you.

I normally don’t indulge in this sort of thing, but successful YouTube fitness personality Scooby recently posted something really fucking stupid on Facebook. Here, have a look.

To summarize: Scooby is sick of vegans citing VEGAN bodybuilders as evidence that you can build or maintain muscle on a vegan diet. He admits that while a vegan diet is indeed healthful and good for the planet, only 0.1% or less of vegans could possibly build quality muscle, while sporting a stage-lean body fat percentage, without the use of drugs. And he uses himself as an example, citing his stats as 219 lbs. and 7% body fat. Claiming he has a huge advantage over vegans. He also claims that he hates vegans using, and I quote: “former carnivorous steroid using bodybuilders” as proof that you can get huge as a vegan.

Where oh where do I begin with this absolutely RETARDED mess?! I guess I’ll just take it in order.

First, Scooby, how the hell did you arrive at that 0.1% figure and the accompanying context? Please, cite me some research on vegans and muscle-building to support that claim. Or did you slide that pungent butt biscuit directly out of your poop shoot?

If you’re going to make claims, and expect to be taken seriously, then you need to be able to back them the fvck up. Plain and simple.

Because, that is not in line with the current, peer-reviewed research. Let alone body of existing anecdote.

For instance, the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics has officially stated that well-planned vegan diets are sufficient for athletes. And I don’t see a caveat excluding bodybuilders, powerlifters, etc. from that statement.

Second, is Scooby Dooby Doo even a natural? Well, let’s find out!

I can extract the measurements of 219 lbs. and 7% body fat from your comment, and according to Natty Or Not, you are 6 foot 3. Which they claim to have obtained from your profile.

Thus, you’d have an FFMI of 25.51, which is a hair above the 25.4 ceiling recorded across TWENTY Mr. America winners between 1939-1959. TWENTY of the BEST bodybuilders from that era!

An era which included greats such as John Grimek, who won the Mr. America in 1940 and 1941… Clarence Ross, who won in 1945… and Steve Reeves, who won in 1947!

And that same study claimed that the well-defined upper limit for natural athletes, generally, appears to be 25. And even then, most folks genetically won’t reach that pinnacle of bodybuilding success, especially not with a low body fat percentage.

Not only have you surpassed it, but you’ve also SLIGHTLY surpassed 20 of the most genetically-gifted folks from the “pre-steroid era”, including absolute LEGENDS who inspire lifters TO THIS DAY!

All of this while you are in your 50’s, as well.

So… without further ado… I call bullshit! Big, stinky, sloppy, steamy, bullshit.

Given your age, size and leanness — it would NOT be a stretch to assume that you are, at the very least, running a modest TRT dose.

Especially given that below 8% body fat, a man’s testosterone levels will plummet.

And you claim to be at 7%.

So, yeah, you’d DEFINITELY have an advantage over vegans… NATTY vegans that is. But, you’d also have an advantage over ANYONE who isn’t doping, vegan or not.

And most vegans were once carnivores, as you put it. Before they took the vegan plunge.

Or, they were like me… vegetarian before-hand.

Very, VERY few were vegan from birth. In fact, I can only think of one, which I will be getting to in a moment.

I built my body ENTIRELY without meat, AND without drugs! I went off meat in 2002, and I turned vegan in 2013. I began lifting with consistency in 2009… 7 years AFTER I dropped meat. And I’ve spent half of my lifting years, so far, as a vegan. And I’ve continued to make progress. I’ve not regressed.

But, as I was saying, I know of one vegan lifter who has been vegan since birth, IFBB Pro Jehina Malik.

There is also a guy who built all of his muscle as a vegan, Richard Campbell, who has competed in three organizations: the IDFA, the WBFF, and the OPA.

And that’s just two examples.

Now, I don’t know about Jehina’s natty status. Given that she competes in the IFBB, I doubt she’s natural, or she’d be putting herself at a serious competitive disadvantage.

But, Richard has openly claimed natty, and has gone so far as to cite his religious beliefs as prohibiting the use of drugs. Furthermore, the IDFA stands for International Drug Free Athletics.

So, all we can do is take his word for it. Just as your followers have to take your word for being natural.

Whatever the case, you’ve done nothing but put forth baseless, absurd claims against vegan bodybuilding. And THAT is what I am calling you out for!

Feel free to respond with evidence to bolster your claims, but I won’t hold my breath.

Anyway, please leave your thoughts in the comments below.

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Thank you all for watching, and see you in the next video!


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